Minutes
ESTF Planning Committee Meeting

12/10/96, Noon - 4:00
1001 Kaiser Center


Attendees:
Jim Dolgonas, UCOP (chair)
Sally Brainerd, UCSD
Donna Carpenter, UCSB
Greg Colley, UCOT
Judy Coy, UCOP
Candice Garretson, UCI
Leslye Hays, UCD
Randy Lopez, UCSF
Laura Martinez, UCOP
Marilyn Morissette, UCB
Pixie Ogren, UCLA
Patti Owen, UCB
Mike O'Neill, UCOP
Larry Sautter, UCR
Tom Taylor, LBL
Myrna Walton, UCOP
Benny Min, UCOP
absent: Celena Allison, UCSC; Richard Layne, UCOP

 


All Planning and Policy Committee members convened for a joint session.

Referencing the draft of the EMPLOYEE SYSTEMS TASK FORCE PLANNING FRAMEWORK document, dated 11/21/96, M. Stuart Lynn recapped the following:

Lynn mentioned the use of focus groups and "out of the box" thinkers to assure ourselves that we are not being insular in our thinking. It was noted that participants on the Task Force were selected, at least in part, because of their contributions to new ways of solving problems; nonetheless, the Planning Committee should solicit input from others as well.

A member of the Planning Committee asked if there were any changes for the Planning Committee to incorporate into their work as a result of what was discussed at the morningâs Policy Committee meeting. The answer was that other than amplifying the directives already cited in the framework document, only one new task was defined: informally or formally, Planning Committee members should pursue at their respective local campuses/labs, discussion of the ESTF issues to gain preliminary feedback expeditiously, in light of the tight ESTF schedule.

Lynn mentioned that in many cases we need 80% solutions in order to move our agenda along in an effective and timely manner.

The draft UCOP Benefits Systems Re-Engineering document, dated 12/05/96, was referenced in regards to controls. It was agreed that existing controls may be removed and new systems controls may be added with ultimate objectives of improving controls to facilitate better effectiveness and service; a people-centric focus should be followed.

In response to a question from a Planning committee member, Lynn responded that funding issues were not addressed in terms of having a current dollar limit already assigned, but there is already a recognition that this project will likely require significant funding. Presenting the ESTF plan should set the stage for the next steps of securing more clearly defined funding needs as well as confirming project direction and priorities.

Before the Policy Group departed, Lynn proposed the following topics for a plan which might constitute the report of the Task Force:


Dolgonas asked each representative to share with the group activities or plans at their location which might have an effect on the work of the group since there are many innovations, much progressive thinking and relevant activities underway at each campus, much involving members of this Planning Committee.

Among the projects, activities, and issues presented were the following:


Involvement of Focus Groups:

It was clarified that Focus groups would not have "thumbs up/thumbs down" decision authority, but would still be an important source of input. Further, organizations such as CAUSE and other professional assocations in various areas were cited as good sources for such input. It was also noted that "out of the box" thinkers would not necessarily be "outsiders", i.e., there is no shortage of such thinkers within UC. Other possible organizations to contact included ABOG, Academic Senate, and Staff Assemblies. Further discussion on use of Focus groups was deferred until the next meeting.

Recommendations for how questions and/or issues are raised was also discussed. These included "carefully wording" any questions, reviewing previously developed documents to avoid duplication of effort, e.g., HR list of needs from a prior committee, and contacting people both formally and informally.



Discussion of Initiative Areas:

Referencing the latest draft of the Employee Systems Initiatives document, dated December 1996, discusssions were initiated in the following areas:

Given the collective influence that the University of California as a single, united entity comprises, an open-minded ideal cited by the committee was to try and utilize the Universityâs power to secure more favorable arrangements in such areas as HR software purchasing or recommended vendor application development; further, this should be effected without compromising local needs and issues. This ideal may warrant inclusion in the next draft of the framework document.



Discussion of Projects:

Development of the ESTF Plan document was discussed at a general level. The basic approach is for the Planning Committee to propose initial drafts for Policy Committee review. Collectively, the full ESTF would present the Plan document to Senior Vice President Kennedy.

The possibility was raised of using sub-groups to complete work in specific areas and to define or review project ideas. Further discussion was deferred until the next Planning Committee meeting.

As the list of recommended projects is developed, acknowledgement of both local implementation costs and training issues should be factored into timetables and required resources.

Each campus was asked to review the 1988 report of academic and staff personnel needs as a beginning point to establish unmet, Universitywide HR needs. Feedback on this review is due at the next committee meeting.

The Policy Committee discussed whether the Payroll system should be more standardized and possibly run centrally. For example, one thought is that some local changes may be generally desirable and therefore should be considered for incorporation into the base system, reducing local variations. To help assess these issues, each campus representative was asked to determine the local campus changes made to the base system. This would include: a short description of the reason for the change, e.g., at UCSD one change might be to accomodate a local account structure; and an assessment of the scope of the change, i.e., major, significant or minor. Campus members were asked to bring this information to the next meeting of the committee.

The Policy Committee also discussed the need for easy interface between Research Administration systems and payroll data. Consideration as to how to achieve this needs to be considered by the Planning Committee.



Schedule:

The next Planning Committee meeting will be held in the Oakland Kaiser Center on Friday, 01/10/97, from 9AM - 3PM; date, time, and room confirmation will follow.



Next Steps:

The following additional key policy issue, one or two page documents, prepared at the request of and for discussion at the Policy Committee meeting, were distributed for subsequent reading/discussion; these supplemented the information contained in the framework document:

The following policy documents were distributed as general background: A previously developed list of HR needs will be distributed to committee members. This should be the starting point for discussion of HR needs. It's possible that other such documents, e.g., previously developed Payroll Issue documents, may be reviewed, but none were confirmed at the meeting.

By the next committee meeting, 01/10/97:

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