Minutes
ESTF Planning Committee Meeting

02/03/97, 9:30 - 3:30
812 Kaiser Center


Attendees:
Jim Dolgonas, UCOP (chair)
Celena Allison, UCSC
Sally Brainerd, UCSD
Donna Carpenter, UCSB
Greg Colley, UCOT
Judy Coy, UCOP
Candice Garretson, UCI
Leslye Hays, UCD
Richard Layne, UCOP
Randy Lopez, UCSF
Laura Martinez, UCOP
Marilyn Morissette, UCB
Patti Owen, UCB
Mike O'Neill, UCOP
Larry Sautter, UCR
Dennis Shimek, UCD
Myrna Walton, UCOP
Benny Min, UCOP
absent: Pixie Ogren, UCLA; Tom Taylor, LBL


Introduction:

Dolgonas asked if any items not on the agenda needed to be raised:



Review Draft Minutes From 01/10/97 Meeting:

12/10/96 minutes were reconfirmed as final.

The following changes to the draft 01/10/97 minutes were approved by the Planning Committee:



UCD Campus Report:

Hays reported a variety of items of interest to UCD following discussions with various campus people:

Colley cited a travel expenses application that he utilizes as a good model for some of the items listed by Hays.

Owen suggested including case tracking once approvals are received in some of the items listed by Hays.

Hays also reported that they had given a positive review to a web-based customer service application demonstrated by Fidelity; a training session was included and among the items appreciated was the inclusion of legal definitions as part of the application.



Discuss Issues from Last Policy Committee Meeting (01/15/97):

Dolgonas explained that the Policy Committee wanted to understand better why previously cited problems with a departmental entry of action codes occur. They suggested that this be a topic for focus group discussion.

Allison noted that in some cases data may actually be input "correctly," but may be mapped "incorrectly" to other data elements; further, improvements in access to history data may lessen these types of problems. Lastly, there are also additional problems with history data and its use than these.

Dolgonas added that the Policy Committee believes that records access is a generic problem and not just limited to PPS and Benefits.

Dolgonas raised the issue of smart cards. Brainerd cited some usage at UCSD, though there are no pictures included on them. Hays cited usage at UCD by students, but not for employees; further, she cited the need for improved definitions and flexibility of security levels.



ESTF Planning Committee Tasks Schedule:

A document recapping primary objectives for today's and subsequent ESTF Planning Committee meetings was distributed and discussed; see below for a basic recap

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Review Initial Draft of ESTF Planning Committee Report of Possible ESTF Candidate Projects:

Brainerd asked about ESTF funding issues and Dolgonas responded that the Potential ESTF Project Candidates report will include a column for estimated costs.

Lopez noted that the complexity of UC policies, complexity of the interfaces themselves, and training-related problems compound cost issues.

Morissette added that there are also technical issues to be considered when estimating costs, e.g., hardware. Lopez noted that bandwidth issues should also be considered in terms of any additional networking costs that may be incurred to accommodate an increase in traffic.



Review "Best Practices" Sites:

Hays reported that a possible source of information is the Certified Employee Benefit Specialists (CEBS).

Allison suggested consulting other HR web sites for further information on best practices.

Morissette reported that HRSB provided a cross-section of RFP synthesized information; no organizations provided yet; however, further suggested contacting vendors that supply applications for further information on best practices.

Martinez reported that Harvard is implementing Oracle for HR and Payroll Systems. Oracle indicated to Harvard that many organizations are facing the same questions that UC is facing.

Dolgonas reported that Taylor had recommended a couple of vendors that would be worth pursuing; one was Hewlett-Packard in Palo Alto; the other was another Northern California company.

Garretson reported that NACUBO's information is relatively limited, given that there are approximately only 19 participants; however, UCI had received a top prize from NACUBO.

Sautter reported that he hadn't heard back from Richard Katz at CAUSE yet for examples of exemplars in higher education Human Resources.

Layne reported that he hadn't received much feedback yet from other auditors; however, he was aware that SAP was being installed at Chevron and PG&E.

Lopez reported that on 02/13/97, Fortune Magazine was sponsoring a presentation focused mostly on private industry at the Ritz-Carlton that still might be of interest to people on the ESTF Planning Committee in light of its PeopleSoft perspective.

O'Neill and Brainerd reported about a Private Industry Forum being held in Las Vegas that might be of interest. Further, there is an upcoming APA meeting being held in San Diego. O'Neill added that he would be visiting Pacific Bell soon.

Dolgonas reported that he would visiting McGraw-Hill soon in light of Peat Marwick recommending them as an exemplary site.



Review Other UC Reports:

Allison reported a variety of items for UCSC:

Dolgonas suggested that "bulk reporting" be included on the ESTF projects list and the Committee agreed.

Allison then recapped her top priority items for UCSC:

  1. history
  2. ad hoc reporting
  3. PAN improvement
Allison closed by stating that the payroll portion of PPS works well and the work of the previous upgrade project was beneficial.

Lopez reported a list of major points/needs for UCSF:

  1. easier/more accurate front-end, i.e., GUI
  2. expansion of paperless objectives, e.g., more IVR expansion
  3. improved management reporting
  4. improved integration with other applications
  5. improved data history and accuracy
  6. improved employee access to own data
  7. improved salary administration
Carpenter reported a variety of items for UCSB: Sautter referenced a series of emails he had exchanged with UCR's academic personnel managers and forwarded a recap to Min.

Hays said that in addition to what she had reported earlier, she noted "almost verbatim" similarity to Allison's report, e.g., problems with speed of PAN, the lack of pre-approval functionality, response time problems, and history access.

Brainerd that she, too, found a lot of similarity for UCSD in what other campuses were reporting. Additionally, she would like to see application functionality to address mass entry of certain transactions, e.g., when hundreds and potentially thousands of students need to be employed in similar positions.

Dolgonas asked about local bulk notification processing that was implemented at UCSD. Brainerd noted that departments can access this application and that the same rights to the EDB are carried forward in this application.

Morisette and Owen distributed a document listing UCB's "Employee Systems Needs Identified by Campus Users" after consulting with Academic Personnel, Department Personnel Managers, etc. A partial list was then verbally recapped:

Garretson reported that after consulting with Academic Personnel, HR, Benefits, and the Payroll Group, she found considerable commonality in what was being reported here by other campuses. Additionally, she noted that UCI wanted to see easier access to employee data.

As a general observation, she believes that PPS is being sought to effect functions it wasn't originally designed to do and also wondered how any one product would/could be integrated to address the present diverse campus requirements.

O'Neill distributed a "Updated on Merit Process Work Group" document from the 01/30/97 Payroll Managers' Meeting. Martinez noted that this needs to be done in time for the July 1 merits.

Walton distributed a couple documents: "UC BENEFITS - PROPOSED PPS ENHANCEMENTS" dated February 1997 and "PPS PROJECTS - COMING SOON/IN PLANNING" dated 01/27/97.



Review UCOP Focus Group Pilot:

Min distributed the "ESTF Planning Committee Pilot Focus Group Report" and along with Layne, Martinez, and Walton reported on the pilot focus group sessions held at OP.

No items from the sessions were presented with unanimous support, though the primary consensus items voiced were:

  1. increase access to personal information
  2. improve existing processes
  3. increase/improve functions supporting online access
  4. improve communication to employees about important processes and access to records and information
Suggestions for focus group process improvement were discussed as were the actual questions, format, and approach of the two sessions. Diversity of the participants was a primary problem cited, e.g., lack of any academics. An example of the importance of diversity was evident in the varying levels of support for web and ivr access both between the two focus groups as well as within the second group session itself; this second group included a student, a retiree, new and other active employees.

The next step of campus focus group sessions was then raised. Brainerd agreed to initiate a process at UCSD and Dolgonas agreed to follow-up with Ogren to see if focus group sessions could be facilitated at UCLA.



Review Reports of Campus Payroll Modifications:

Copies of "final" campus reports from SF, SB, and SC were distributed to all Committee members. Copies of latest draft campus reports from BK, LA, RV, SD, and IR were distributed to all Committee members following revisions by Coy's staff to adhere to the model format initiated by SF. These campuses were requested to finalize their reports upon review of the latest drafts. DV's report is continuing to be drafted.

Hays asked for clarification of the Campus Reports' objectives. Dolgonas responded that goals were two-fold:

  1. provide an accurate report to the ESTF Policy Committee of what were the actual local campus modifications to help assess the degree of variation by campus; and
  2. provide a source of data for the ESTF Planning Committee to consider as Potential ESTF Project Candidates.
Dolgonas indicated that once all campus reports are finalized, that they be included as part of the final ESTF report as an appendix item.



Schedule:

The next Planning Committee meeting will be held in the Oakland Kaiser Center on Monday, 02/24/97, from 9:30AM - 3:30PM, in conference room 1712.



Next Steps:

At the next committee meeting, 02/24/97:

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