02/03/97, 9:30 - 3:30
812 Kaiser Center
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Jim Dolgonas, UCOP (chair) Celena Allison, UCSC Sally Brainerd, UCSD Donna Carpenter, UCSB Greg Colley, UCOT Judy Coy, UCOP |
Candice Garretson, UCI Leslye Hays, UCD Richard Layne, UCOP Randy Lopez, UCSF Laura Martinez, UCOP Marilyn Morissette, UCB |
Patti Owen, UCB Mike O'Neill, UCOP Larry Sautter, UCR Dennis Shimek, UCD Myrna Walton, UCOP Benny Min, UCOP |
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absent: Pixie Ogren, UCLA; Tom Taylor, LBL | ||
Dolgonas asked if any items not on the agenda needed to be raised:
12/10/96 minutes were reconfirmed as final.
The following changes to the draft 01/10/97 minutes were approved by the Planning Committee:
Hays reported a variety of items of interest to UCD following discussions with various campus people:
Owen suggested including case tracking once approvals are received in some of the items listed by Hays.
Hays also reported that they had given a positive review to a web-based customer service application demonstrated by Fidelity; a training session was included and among the items appreciated was the inclusion of legal definitions as part of the application.
Dolgonas explained that the Policy Committee wanted to understand better why previously cited problems with a departmental entry of action codes occur. They suggested that this be a topic for focus group discussion.
Allison noted that in some cases data may actually be input "correctly," but may be mapped "incorrectly" to other data elements; further, improvements in access to history data may lessen these types of problems. Lastly, there are also additional problems with history data and its use than these.
Dolgonas added that the Policy Committee believes that records access is a generic problem and not just limited to PPS and Benefits.
Dolgonas raised the issue of smart cards. Brainerd cited some usage at UCSD, though there are no pictures included on them. Hays cited usage at UCD by students, but not for employees; further, she cited the need for improved definitions and flexibility of security levels.
A document recapping primary objectives for today's and subsequent ESTF Planning Committee meetings was distributed and discussed; see below for a basic recap
02/03/97 ESTF Planning Committee Meeting
Brainerd asked about ESTF funding issues and Dolgonas responded that the Potential ESTF Project Candidates report will include a column for estimated costs.
Lopez noted that the complexity of UC policies, complexity of the interfaces themselves, and training-related problems compound cost issues.
Morissette added that there are also technical issues to be considered when estimating costs, e.g., hardware. Lopez noted that bandwidth issues should also be considered in terms of any additional networking costs that may be incurred to accommodate an increase in traffic.
Hays reported that a possible source of information is the Certified Employee Benefit Specialists (CEBS).
Allison suggested consulting other HR web sites for further information on best practices.
Morissette reported that HRSB provided a cross-section of RFP synthesized information; no organizations provided yet; however, further suggested contacting vendors that supply applications for further information on best practices.
Martinez reported that Harvard is implementing Oracle for HR and Payroll Systems. Oracle indicated to Harvard that many organizations are facing the same questions that UC is facing.
Dolgonas reported that Taylor had recommended a couple of vendors that would be worth pursuing; one was Hewlett-Packard in Palo Alto; the other was another Northern California company.
Garretson reported that NACUBO's information is relatively limited, given that there are approximately only 19 participants; however, UCI had received a top prize from NACUBO.
Sautter reported that he hadn't heard back from Richard Katz at CAUSE yet for examples of exemplars in higher education Human Resources.
Layne reported that he hadn't received much feedback yet from other auditors; however, he was aware that SAP was being installed at Chevron and PG&E.
Lopez reported that on 02/13/97, Fortune Magazine was sponsoring a presentation focused mostly on private industry at the Ritz-Carlton that still might be of interest to people on the ESTF Planning Committee in light of its PeopleSoft perspective.
O'Neill and Brainerd reported about a Private Industry Forum being held in Las Vegas that might be of interest. Further, there is an upcoming APA meeting being held in San Diego. O'Neill added that he would be visiting Pacific Bell soon.
Dolgonas reported that he would visiting McGraw-Hill soon in light of Peat Marwick recommending them as an exemplary site.
Allison reported a variety of items for UCSC:
Allison then recapped her top priority items for UCSC:
Lopez reported a list of major points/needs for UCSF:
Hays said that in addition to what she had reported earlier, she noted "almost verbatim" similarity to Allison's report, e.g., problems with speed of PAN, the lack of pre-approval functionality, response time problems, and history access.
Brainerd that she, too, found a lot of similarity for UCSD in what other campuses were reporting. Additionally, she would like to see application functionality to address mass entry of certain transactions, e.g., when hundreds and potentially thousands of students need to be employed in similar positions.
Dolgonas asked about local bulk notification processing that was implemented at UCSD. Brainerd noted that departments can access this application and that the same rights to the EDB are carried forward in this application.
Morisette and Owen distributed a document listing UCB's "Employee Systems Needs Identified by Campus Users" after consulting with Academic Personnel, Department Personnel Managers, etc. A partial list was then verbally recapped:
As a general observation, she believes that PPS is being sought to effect functions it wasn't originally designed to do and also wondered how any one product would/could be integrated to address the present diverse campus requirements.
O'Neill distributed a "Updated on Merit Process Work Group" document from the 01/30/97 Payroll Managers' Meeting. Martinez noted that this needs to be done in time for the July 1 merits.
Walton distributed a couple documents: "UC BENEFITS - PROPOSED PPS ENHANCEMENTS" dated February 1997 and "PPS PROJECTS - COMING SOON/IN PLANNING" dated 01/27/97.
Min distributed the "ESTF Planning Committee Pilot Focus Group Report" and along with Layne, Martinez, and Walton reported on the pilot focus group sessions held at OP.
No items from the sessions were presented with unanimous support, though the primary consensus items voiced were:
The next step of campus focus group sessions was then raised. Brainerd agreed to initiate a process at UCSD and Dolgonas agreed to follow-up with Ogren to see if focus group sessions could be facilitated at UCLA.
Copies of "final" campus reports from SF, SB, and SC were distributed to all Committee members. Copies of latest draft campus reports from BK, LA, RV, SD, and IR were distributed to all Committee members following revisions by Coy's staff to adhere to the model format initiated by SF. These campuses were requested to finalize their reports upon review of the latest drafts. DV's report is continuing to be drafted.
Hays asked for clarification of the Campus Reports' objectives. Dolgonas responded that goals were two-fold:
The next Planning Committee meeting will be held in the Oakland Kaiser Center on Monday, 02/24/97, from 9:30AM - 3:30PM, in conference room 1712.
At the next committee meeting, 02/24/97: